Comments for Whole Health America Weblog http://wholehealthamerica.wordpress.com learning to feel better... Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:55:39 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on The Amish and Autism by Paul Varnas http://wholehealthamerica.wordpress.com/2009/04/23/the-amish-and-autism/#comment-266 Paul Varnas Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:55:39 +0000 http://wholehealthamerica.wordpress.com/?p=66#comment-266 I think where we differ is in the belief that it is somehow orchestrated and organized. I have been in large organizations--they have meetings and memos just to order paper clips. The government has trouble delivering the mail--coordinating the four horseman might be a little much for them. I think we are just dealing with a lot of individual acts of greed and self-interest. Now there are a lot of us and we are noticing the consequences of our actions are farther reaching. I think where we differ is in the belief that it is somehow orchestrated and organized. I have been in large organizations–they have meetings and memos just to order paper clips. The government has trouble delivering the mail–coordinating the four horseman might be a little much for them. I think we are just dealing with a lot of individual acts of greed and self-interest. Now there are a lot of us and we are noticing the consequences of our actions are farther reaching.

]]> Comment on The Amish and Autism by cher sadig http://wholehealthamerica.wordpress.com/2009/04/23/the-amish-and-autism/#comment-265 cher sadig Thu, 24 Sep 2009 03:32:30 +0000 http://wholehealthamerica.wordpress.com/?p=66#comment-265 Brave New World was also written by one of the advocates for Eugenics. Rockefeller stated that the world had no use for the poor. Prince Phillip was caught saying that the poor should be eliminated entirely. We already have ethnic cleansing going on by the millions. The biggest problem has been what to do with all the bodies? And if you kill too many off, there's not enough left to dispose of the bodies. I'm in the medical field and it doesn't look good. They have already gotten a very good program going to eliminate a large number of people in a very short time. The air is full of contaminates, the water also. Vaccines are widespread and only recently questioned and refused. In poorer nations they give it away. Our foods have been adulterated for nearly a century as a result our people are becoming sterile, our birth rate is in decline, weakened and chronically malnourished and mineral depleted. And then there are the intentional population control programs actively and furiously sterilizing poor nations at an alarming pace. It's not even choice in someplaces, they just quietly do it and lie to the men and women about the procedure they just got paid to have. And half of all americans are currently on some form of prescription meds, and the goal is 100% by decades end. You should read the trade magazines and journals. They do intend to make a vast profit from this plan at the same time. Vaccines are just the tip of the ice berg. It's the boil the frog, start slow and raise the heat a little at a time. End stage renal disease(ESRD) is a booming business, strokes, alzheimers, dementia, heart disease, cancer, lupus, diabetes, mental disorders and now man-made pandemics, are at all time record highs with no let up in sight. If you look at as a fragmented puzzle, just individual parts, there appears to be no pattern, but there is. You have to take each piece and put them together. There is only one outcome, widespread death for large numbers, in a short time. If people had not started on this get healthy, get natural kick hard and heavy, within 5 years very few of us would be left. The stated goal is to reduce the world population by 5.5 billion and keep the population at 500,000. The common thread is large numbers end up dead in a short time. Of course, I could be wrong and it's all just a coincidence and that nagging paranoia that grows from knowing that this is not science fiction. Do the research. Brave New World was also written by one of the advocates for Eugenics.
Rockefeller stated that the world had no use for the poor.
Prince Phillip was caught saying that the poor should be eliminated entirely.
We already have ethnic cleansing going on by the millions. The biggest problem has been what to do with all the bodies? And if you kill too many off, there’s not enough left to dispose of the bodies.

I’m in the medical field and it doesn’t look good. They have already gotten a very good program going to eliminate a large number of people in a very short time.
The air is full of contaminates, the water also.
Vaccines are widespread and only recently questioned and refused. In poorer nations they give it away.
Our foods have been adulterated for nearly a century as a result our people are becoming sterile, our birth rate is in decline, weakened and chronically malnourished and mineral depleted.
And then there are the intentional population control programs actively and furiously sterilizing poor nations at an alarming pace. It’s not even choice in someplaces, they just quietly do it and lie to the men and women about the procedure they just got paid to have.
And half of all americans are currently on some form of prescription meds, and the goal is 100% by decades end.
You should read the trade magazines and journals. They do intend to make a vast profit from this plan at the same time.
Vaccines are just the tip of the ice berg.
It’s the boil the frog, start slow and raise the heat a little at a time.
End stage renal disease(ESRD) is a booming business, strokes, alzheimers, dementia, heart disease, cancer, lupus, diabetes, mental disorders and now man-made pandemics, are at all time record highs with no let up in sight.
If you look at as a fragmented puzzle, just individual parts, there appears to be no pattern, but there is.
You have to take each piece and put them together.
There is only one outcome, widespread death for large numbers, in a short time.
If people had not started on this get healthy, get natural kick hard and heavy, within 5 years very few of us would be left.
The stated goal is to reduce the world population by 5.5 billion and keep the population at 500,000.
The common thread is large numbers end up dead in a short time.
Of course, I could be wrong and it’s all just a coincidence and that nagging paranoia that grows from knowing that this is not science fiction.
Do the research.

]]> Comment on The Amish and Autism by Paul Varnas http://wholehealthamerica.wordpress.com/2009/04/23/the-amish-and-autism/#comment-264 Paul Varnas Wed, 23 Sep 2009 23:42:40 +0000 http://wholehealthamerica.wordpress.com/?p=66#comment-264 I would love it if I thought our government was that organized and capable. I don't think you have to worry--they don't seem to do very much very well. Also, the rich are the ones who tend to get all of the vaccines. I really think that the amount of vaccinations have more to do with drug company marketing, journals who sell ads to drug companies and doctors who are busy and just kind of go along with what the journals and the drug companies say. We really seem to be too lazy to apply any real science--and it seems taboo to even question vaccines. Also there are great economic forces that help to keep us from looking at vaccines from a critical and scientific angle. I also think that people who have questions about the dangers of vaccines need to be reasonable and measured in their questioning--not shrill or unreasonable. We do need to remember that Brave New World was a work of fiction I would love it if I thought our government was that organized and capable. I don’t think you have to worry–they don’t seem to do very much very well. Also, the rich are the ones who tend to get all of the vaccines. I really think that the amount of vaccinations have more to do with drug company marketing, journals who sell ads to drug companies and doctors who are busy and just kind of go along with what the journals and the drug companies say. We really seem to be too lazy to apply any real science–and it seems taboo to even question vaccines. Also there are great economic forces that help to keep us from looking at vaccines from a critical and scientific angle. I also think that people who have questions about the dangers of vaccines need to be reasonable and measured in their questioning–not shrill or unreasonable. We do need to remember that Brave New World was a work of fiction

]]> Comment on The Amish and Autism by cher sadig http://wholehealthamerica.wordpress.com/2009/04/23/the-amish-and-autism/#comment-263 cher sadig Wed, 23 Sep 2009 23:26:27 +0000 http://wholehealthamerica.wordpress.com/?p=66#comment-263 Medical science has known since the beginning of the 1900's how to induce mental retardation and cancer in animals. They know what causes these conditions and can control them. That is how they study "cures" for cancer. That used to be a secret. In following years vaccines have increased in number and doses, and so has there has been an increase in Autism, cancer, asthma, and a whole slew of diseases that they know how to create in lab animals. Coincidence? Or an active effort to create A Brave New World, where babies are fed the right mix of chemicals to create Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Delta people, or Smartest, smarter, barely average, and functional slaves. Autism, from 1 in 100,000 to 1 in 150 children. Still seem like a coincidence? Medical science has known since the beginning of the 1900’s how to induce mental retardation and cancer in animals.
They know what causes these conditions and can control them. That is how they study “cures” for cancer. That used to be a secret.
In following years vaccines have increased in number and doses, and so has there has been an increase in Autism, cancer, asthma, and a whole slew of diseases that they know how to create in lab animals.
Coincidence?
Or an active effort to create A Brave New World, where babies are fed the right mix of chemicals to create Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Delta people, or Smartest, smarter, barely average, and functional slaves.
Autism, from 1 in 100,000 to 1 in 150 children.
Still seem like a coincidence?

]]> Comment on About Dr. Paul Varnas by CC Stephenson http://wholehealthamerica.wordpress.com/about/#comment-262 CC Stephenson Tue, 25 Aug 2009 20:23:09 +0000 #comment-262 Thank you your site, knowledge, and for caring about nutrition. Also for realizing how important nutrition is to us all. It is my opinion that you are on the the cusp of a revolution in health care. (not sickcare). I am excited with those prospects. "Practical Magic" is delightful. Thank you your site, knowledge, and for caring about nutrition. Also for realizing how important nutrition is to us all. It is my opinion that you are on the the cusp of a revolution in health care. (not sickcare). I am excited with those prospects. “Practical Magic” is delightful.

]]> Comment on The Amish and Autism by Paul Varnas http://wholehealthamerica.wordpress.com/2009/04/23/the-amish-and-autism/#comment-240 Paul Varnas Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:29:06 +0000 http://wholehealthamerica.wordpress.com/?p=66#comment-240 None of the studies take the simple approach of comparing an unvaccinated population to a vaccinated population. They all just skirt the issue. The studies "look", but they do things in a very roundabout way. Look at the studies--they really don't prove much. Also, all of the medical journals sell ads to drug companies; how can that not affect what gets published? I honestly question how serious they are looking for a connection. I am not saying that there is a connection, but there could be and we have not honestly, adequately looked into it. None of the studies take the simple approach of comparing an unvaccinated population to a vaccinated population. They all just skirt the issue. The studies “look”, but they do things in a very roundabout way. Look at the studies–they really don’t prove much. Also, all of the medical journals sell ads to drug companies; how can that not affect what gets published? I honestly question how serious they are looking for a connection. I am not saying that there is a connection, but there could be and we have not honestly, adequately looked into it.

]]> Comment on The Amish and Autism by autismne http://wholehealthamerica.wordpress.com/2009/04/23/the-amish-and-autism/#comment-239 autismne Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:09:05 +0000 http://wholehealthamerica.wordpress.com/?p=66#comment-239 <i>The gorilla in the room is the fact that these critics haven’t proven that there isn’t.</i> How does one prove a negative? Dozens of studies have looked for an association between vaccines and autism, and found none. The gorilla in the room is the fact that these critics haven’t proven that there isn’t.

How does one prove a negative? Dozens of studies have looked for an association between vaccines and autism, and found none.

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